TIME FOR A TEST (Nov-08-03)

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"What does this sentence mean?"

It means that you train the neuromuscular system (the system of brain, nerves, and muscles) the positions (finger/arm placement for any note/chord) and movements (changes from one note/chord to another) that the music you are learning needs. Also it applies for the right hand of course.

"Raising tempo incrementally is not great technique. It is in
fact mistake number one. First you need to know what you are
doing."

But I thought this was part of learning anything? Part of the BPA.

"What is 'perfectly'?"

The correct and most efficient manner possible, after studying the move.

"Intentioned for what?"

Maybe my use of this word isn't correct, but the movement is "intentioned" in the sense that you know exactly what you are going to be doing, as Jamie talks about in the principles.


Herein lies my problem with this. I can understand what you are saying , a little bit. But then I start thinking about cause and effect. To me, it seems like there's simply the CAUSE (which is what you do when you practice, a.k.a. when you use the Principles), and the EFFECT is the great technique (the ability to play easily). I can sort of understand what you saying when you say you need to know WHAT you are developing, but the only way I can describe that is to say that it's the ability to play easily, which you say is only the result of it. Theres something in between the cause and effect but I don't know how to describe what that is, because I can't wrap my head around what it actually is.

-Codeman

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You don't know what you have yet.

One of your pragraphs has the definition , but your questions indicate that you don't know that you have the answer. In this case you have pure platinum in your hands and you need to recognize it for what it is. However you are confusing tools and results with a clear view of what great technique actually is. You need to put things in the proper order to be able to be effective in your understanding.

Contemplate what you wrote and what I commented to become aware of it . You don't even need to rewrite it.

"But I thought this was part of learning anything? Part of the BPA."

It is part of learning it , but it is not IT.You have to konw what you are using the BPA for.BPA is a tool.

"The correct and most efficient manner possible, after studying the move."

That is what I need to know and part of it. Perfect means a million things to a million peopleand that can be the wrong thing if not specified in more detail.

"Maybe my use of this word isn't correct, but the movement is
'intentioned' in the sense that you know exactly
what you are going to be doing, as Jamie talks about in the
principles."

That is already described in your first sentence. You don't need to restate it.

"Herein lies my problem with this. I can understand what you
are saying , a little bit. But then I start thinking about
cause and effect. To me, it seems like there's simply the
CAUSE (which is what you do when you practice, a.k.a. when you
use the Principles), and the EFFECT is the great technique."

Great technique appears to be an effect, and this is very subtle, but it can't be an effect because you can apply the principles wrongly and not get that effect unless you know what it is, so you can deleberately try to get it..

"(the ability to play easily). I can sort of understand what
you saying when you say you need to know WHAT you are
developing, but the only way I can describe that is to say
that it's the ability to play easily, which you say is only
the result of it. Theres something in between the cause and
effect but I don't know how to describe what that is, because
I can't wrap my head around what it actually is."

It is not something between, it is something that comes before both of them.

-Ney

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"Contemplate what you wrote and what I commented to become
aware of it . You don't even need to rewrite it."

I don't? I've thought about it some more. I think I may have separated the result of great technique with great technique itself. Don't I need to post for you to read it, so I can know if I'm right? Not that I'm implying you *have* to.

-Codeman

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I meant to say that when you repost , you don't have to reword it, unless you want to.
So go ahead and repost when you feel it.

-Ney

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I have two definitions here, each worded a little bit differently.


Definition #1

Great Technique is the full connection of the Music to the Mind and Muscles; to actualize and perform, utilizing the playing mechanism, the positions and movements required by whatever Music is being played.

#2

Great Technique is what allows you to actualize and perform, utilizing the playing mechanism, the positions and movements required by whatever Music is being played. It is a full connection of the Music to the Mind and Muscles.

You can also move "utilizing the playing mechanism" to after "the positions and movements", and say "of the playing mechanism". I thought they may be the same, but maybe not.

Trying to cover more ground here.

-Codeman

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What is this Two for the price of one?
Congratulations!

You can frame both of them. But most of all : Use them! and let the music decide wha to practice. When you are using the correct motions , they feel effortless, as long as you have the adequate strenght and flexibility required to play the guitar.

-Ney

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Thank you NEY. And thanks for this test, and for helping me, couldn't have done it without you. It was fun doing this. I've learned a lot more over the past few days.

I put two definitions because I wasn't sure which was better. I think I like the second one a little bit better.

-Dave (Codeman)

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Great technique is spiritual meditation and introspection to quiet our thoughts, subdue the ego, and prepare the body for transformation towards a musical intention. Complete attention is given to the body to expand awareness and sensitivity of muscles to increase efficiency of motion. This process is repeated to enable the motions and forms created by music to become our muscle memory.

-Red

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Now that you experienced in person what it is, you went beyond normal reading comprehension. Frame it and use it. This is one wing, the priciples is the other wing. With them you will fly anywhere you want musically.

-Ney

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Great guitar technique:

The ability to execute efficiently, safely, and accurately the precise motions needed to achieve a predetermined expressive musical effect, for example, a single note, a chord, a melody or harmony.

This is a result of great desire and love(needed to do the hard work that is required) and great physical intelligence (needed to actually be able to develop this ability).

-Jeroen24